but we need their help against the hakani network, the pakistani taliban, as well as al qaeda in the tribal regions. so this is going to be a part of the long laundry list on both sides of grievances they want and they want to address. >> is this a major change, do you think, in the relationship between pakistan and the u.s.? or do you see this as maybe just a blip on the radar? >> i don't think it's a blip on the radar. we've had a steadily worsening u.s.-pakistani relationship that began at the beginning of this year with the cia contractor shooting two pakistanis in a pakistani city that was compounded by a lot of pakistani pushback on the ramped up american drone program in pakistan and not getting the heads up on the osama bin laden raid. and, so, you know, but while there's been hard words, this is the first time it's been an action by the united states withholding this aid, which, by the way, as fran points out, this is not -- it's not aid per se, this is reimbursement for military activities they're undertaking which we want them to undertake. we, the united states, want them